Sunday, February 1, 2015

Thoughts on St. Augustine


            While reading St. Augustine’s text, I had a hard time immediately connecting his ideas to the concept of Utopia.  In Plato’s writing, Socrates and his two companions were directly discussing how to create and ideal society. Though, “utopia” is never actually stated, the connections between Plato’s ideas and our explorations of utopia were very clear. I wonder if I was supposed to read St. Augustine’s views about Christianity and think of it as though he is presenting that a utopia is founded on well-followed Christian principles.  I know Augustine is not directly taking about “utopia,” but this is the connection that I made between the two subjects.
            I liked that the introduction provided a third person overview of Augustine’s writing.  It helped set up the rest of the reading and helped me think critically about Augustine’s argument and how he set it up.  John O’Meara’s introduction gives a little background on Augustine himself; people haven’t been able to determine whether he was a pessimist or an optimist, which would in turn shed an interesting light on Augustine’s overall theological and theoretical discussion. On page x of John O’Meara’s introduction, he mentions, “It is unfortunate that Augustine, in placing the positive part of his argument in the final twelve books and the negative in the first ten, gives the impression that he is opposed to Rome and Greek philosophy.  If he had stated the basis of his positive doctrine first, it would be seen that…his general outlook is positive.”  On the one hand, I admire Augustine for addressing the conflicts that would negate his beliefs directly in order to strengthen his own theory.  However, I think O’Meara is trying to say that if Augustine addressed the problems he had with the pagan religion later on in his text, his argument would have become more accessible.  There would be less disagreement at the beginning of his writing so his readers would have stayed engaged longer. But this is the way that Augustine chose to write it and its not like he can edit it now.
            There is a lot of negativity in this text, but right away in Book I’s preface, I thought the idea that “God is our helper” (6) is a nice one.  I have always thought that God was traditionally considered a ruler or a commander, but Augustine’s statement seems like a friendlier one. It seems to allow for free will and the view that God is there to give advice rather than commands.  He later talks about how his two proposed cities are both founded on love.  I thought statements like this one provided evidence of Augustine being a positive person.  This view really aids his argument because it gives the reader a reason to like and to trust him.  However, I felt that a lot of his arguments were sometimes just statements.  They seemed to lack a “why” or evidence to make them persuasive. I’m interested in knowing more about how other people perceived him and the strength of his argument: people during his time, people during our time, and your own thoughts.

2 comments:

  1. I also really enjoyed the introduction to Augustine's book. I thought it provided a good overview of what we were about to read, although I think it could have been a bit shorter (much like Augustine's writing).
    As for Augustine being a pessimist, I had a hard time deciding whether he was more negative than positive too. I thought that Augustine was good at supporting his ideas, but I also had a hard time seeing his point even given that support. And although I thought him to be a bit harsh with his ideas, I often softened to them after another paragraph or two of his explanations (thank goodness he provided so many paragraphs!).

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  2. Personally I enjoyed the introduction as well because when I have to delve in a text with no prior knowledge or conceptions, I find I must read it several times before making concrete judgments on it. I actually agreed with the organization pattern which Augustine chose. It brings my mind to the commercials where the announcer asks are you tired of the old way of doing things? Well if not, then here are all the reasons you should be! Then, here is this new way that promises to be so much better! I do not know if one can successfully attract an audience by simply stating the good of a product or in this case, a theoretical idea. You must dangle some “bait” to prove that the old is obsolete.

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